@robert-cassar Where is the main hub for passing ideas between people trying to optimise and experiment. I see the forums here have some trepidation about speaking. Im willing to lead conversations and i will try to bring out of people what i can. But im looking to do this in the most effective way. Where would you say the hub of experimenters are. Earthshift/earther/or project. I signed up for project and am still waiting acceptance but i see the latest post was 3 months ago. Thank you for your time and direction.